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Figuring out the Oldest Person's place in time is almost an inversion of Beloit College's "Mindset List". Kids today know the Titanic as some ancient sea disaster from a 1990s movie (also old!), but Ms. Edna Parker would have been almost nineteen years old when the Titanic sank, older than those same college freshmen.





True, but it was at least theoretically possible for Edna Parker to have known these people and remembered these events. Now even that's gone.

Jeanne Calment, who lived to 122 before dying in 1997, knew Vincent Van Gogh.

The more I ponder this subject, the more I need a beer.





Yeah, I sort of blipped over some of the argument. The rest goes something like: You haven't made the other posts yet, but logically, none of them are good enough for you to say "OK, I'll take this one". All of them are XML formats that accept namespaces (with one level of support or another), so I wouldn't be surprised in the end there isn't much advantage to any of them and you'll need to add namespaced elements to any of them. Given that, I'd tend to guess the ones designed for bookmarks themselves are the most likely to be meaningfully processed by other tools.

While reading that prose it sounds like an attempt at an answer, that's meant as just thoughts on the format, which I suspect you already have thought or you wouldn't be posting. I'm probably just reinforcing what you've thought.

And... yes, I'm apparently far more willing to add namespaced elements to things (as long as it degrades gracefully) than most developers, who treat it as some sort of violation of sacrament or something. Maybe I'm on one extreme (though it hasn't bitten me yet), but I think that being borderline fearful of adding namespaced elements is also an extreme.

I also can't help but notice that few developers really get the XML namespacing thing, which I strongly suspect plays into that. I do a lot of work with XMPP, and it sort of looks like it uses namespaces properly, except that when you dig into it, the standards writers don't quite get it right... and it's better than most uses. This may be connected to my willingness to use it.



Thank you, Mr. Cadenhead, for Workbench and for graciously admitting you haven't read Plazabum yet.

I've been reading and posting occasionally on "Workbench" for two about years. I get the impression that you're a good person, and that you (like me) are a First Amendment absolutist. Even Justices William O. Douglas and Hugo Black would be troubled by government officials starting an anonymous website for the purpose of harassing the homeless and hounding dissenters.

Plazabummers are government officials and their entourages (like MICHAEL GOLD) -- Plazabum is vox rex, not vox populi.

When you read Plazabum's nasty drivel with an open mind, I reckon you might agree with me that there's probably no First Amendment protection for government officials (and their entourages) abusing the Internet for the purpose of inciting violence, committing obstruction of justice and committing libel, slander, defamation and blacklisting.

Ask yourself when you read their hysterical, lying, obscenities -- so obsequeiously trying vainly to defend our City's environmental racism and environmental crimes -- "Cui bono?"

The white-hot, irascible anger that Plazabum and Talk of the Town (ToTT) directed against my reporting environmental crimes and defending the First Amendment rights of GLBT people (the Rainbow flags on our Bridge of Lions) are consistent with PR wieners defending the indefensible.

City Commissioners have used ToTT and Plazabum NICs. (NANCY SIKES-KLINE was BULLG8R LADY on ToTT). Their posts were used to create the false impression that "the people" were opposed to the Rainbow Flags on the Bridge of Lions, directly leading to the City's May 23, 2005 First Amendment violation (and June 7, 2005 Temporary Restraining Order by U.S. District Judge Henry Lee Adams, Jr., finding the City had violated the First Amendment.

ToTT and Plazabum are First Amendment violators and vilifiers -- read the "anonymice" mockery every time someone speaks out for the rights of others -- obscene, derisive and wrong.

THe fact that Plazabummers are illiterate, impudent, illogical KKK and John Birch Society wannabees makes it all the more unreasonable for anyone to think Plazabum is a community forum.

It's run by MICHAEL GOLD, CHARLES NUSBAUM, and other cronies of City Manager WILLIAM B. HARRISS and Sheriff DAVID SHOAR, whom HARRISS helped raise a quarter of a million dollars to run for St. Johns County Sheriff in 2004. Check out the photos of the Plazabummers and their pal, City Manager WILLIAM B. HARRISS, on www.cleanupcityofstaugustine.b logspot.com

As to your suggestion about posting on Plazabum, I don't and I won't. I wouldn't attend a KKK or John Birch Society meeting either.

Let the Plazabum Philistines bay at the moon (often quoting from www.cleanupcityofstaugustine.b logspot.com, unable to rebut it).

I wear their scorn as a badge of honor. What do they have to offer our community (other than sniper attacks and jejune, juvenile mockery of persons they never met, including me (whose own First Amendment struggles on behalf of Tennessee and USDOL environmental, nuclear, federal and trucking whistleblowers they mock).

Anyone who'd try to defend the illegal dumping of 40,000 cubic yards of solid waste in the Old City Reservoir and propose moving it back to Lincolnville is beneath contempt. Anyone who'd try to defend the illegal dumping of sewage effluent in our saltwater marsh while our City Manager kept the public in the dark for some five years is an accompice to environmental crimes and obstruction of justice (threatening me for making protected reports to the authorities).

Anyone who keeps environmental pollution secret is an environmental criminal, like the Union Carbide and Atomic Energy Commission officials who dumped 4.2 million pounds of mercury into Oak Ridge creeks and groundwater and workers' lungs and brains.

Plazabum's energies are hatefully focused on hating me, blaring bigotry and defending WILLIAM B. HARRISS (and the corrupt St. Johns County Republican political machine).

It is, at best, facetious to call Plazabum a community forum. Plazabum is a noisome nuisance, resembling KKK or John Birch Society publications. What do you reckon?

Thanks for listening and Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mary.

Cheers,
Ed
Ed Slavin
Box 3084
St. Augustine, FLorida
904-471-7023
904-471-9918 (fax)









"Weepy Tom..."

Just because I say so, doesn't mean that leftists are calling me names, right?

"... lousy with the facts as usual."

Just because I say so, doesn't mean that intellectually bereft leftists call me names in order to avoid those "lousy" facts, right?

"The Pentagon Papers were commissioned in 1967... Was the report published in 1967? Nope."

It was a Democrat administration's study to determine if a "Limited" war in SEA could stop communist fascism from taking over in South Vietnam. It wasn't revealed to the public, since it concluded that the Democrat administration's policy was flawed (at best), and its revelation would have been stupidly treasonous because it was Top Secret (Codeword).

So, the Democrats waited until Nixon was president, and Republicans could be blamed for the "conclusions" on a "Limited War", and priests were picked to be the "Plumbers", so that they might not face the Death Penalty for their TREASON!

Meddlesome facts, right?

"Republican President Richard Nixon stepped into the Oval Office with that report in his hand, knowing that the Vietnam War was unwinnable. Did he bring our boys home immediately? Nope. He sent another 20,000 soldiers off to die. That's the God you're pretending to pray to."

You really are callow, huh? Nixon *changed* the strategy, and increased the war by interdicting the North. It brought the fascist communists to the Peace Table, but where further treason by John Kerry undermined those talks; along with "investigations" into claims that US soldiers were brutal war criminals, and that the administration encouraged such barbarity.

All of which "testimony" by the known traitor, Kerry, was discovered to be total lies!

Another bothersome "Fact", right?

Why not address those facts, instead of so reflexively making me your subject? Are these your own "facts"? ...

"No one here "reviles you" as much as you desperately wish we would. We don't care, kiddo. I'm just pointing out what we all know - you're no soldier; you're a 13-year-old boy with a Macbook."



Are you personally acquainted with any of the Plazabummers, or just reflexively defending their First Amendment rights in the abstract?

I'm a person who reads PlazaBum once in a while and the publisher of the Drudge Retort, a site where thousands of people share their opinions on politics. So I'm familiar with the dynamic of message boards.

I don't know if any of the accusations you're making about PlazaBum are factual, but I think they're best addressed by either posting messages there (if they allow it) or starting your own online community. The intarweb's a big place. If PlazaBum was bad for St. Augustine, as you claim, a better community ought to find an audience.


I may end up going that direction, but what do I gain if all the compelling functionality is in a new namespace and the namespace only works with XBEL? Particularly if I make it a hodgepodge of namespace elements from Atom and elsewhere?

One thing I've found with the RSS Profile, which encourages RSS publishers to employ useful elements from several namespaces, is that developers can be a hard sell on adopting namespaces.

If XBEL got me 90 percent of the way there already, a namespace would be the best solution. But here, three of the four features I need aren't in the format.





1. "Funniest thing" you've "read in a while?"

2. That suggests that you're laughing at Plazabum's victims, instead of decrying Plazabum's negative effect on our community.

3. Any potential tourist or investor reading Plazabum would get the false impression St. Augustine is one big 'ole homeless camp, and that anyone who ever criticizes dysfunctional, corrupt local governments is crazy. Plazabummers perform the same terrorizing functions that the KKK performed in St. Augustine in 1964. The "terrorist" analogy is spot on when you consider how they state their intent to drive people out of town and ruin their livelihoods.

4. You seem to put more credence in Plazabum bigots than their victims. Why?

5. Are you personally acquainted with any of the Plazabummers, or just reflexively defending their First Amendment rights in the abstract? I consider myself a First Amendment absolutist, but I don't defend Plazabummers' abusiveness, hatred, invective and inventions.

6. Plazabum is a discredited forum for right-wing Republican City of St. Augustine, St. Johns County and other government officials and for unenlightened local businessmen. Call them "the anonymice."

7, Some of the Plazabummers have time on their hands. Others are backshooting cowards in the spirit of Senator Bilbo -- uninformed bigots who chauvinistically defend St. Augustine City Manager WILLIAM B. HARRISS and all his works and pomps.

8. Cui bono? (Who benefits?)

9. Notice how whenever our City of St. Augustine is caught committing environmental racism and illegal dumping, anonyous Plazabummers are full of disinformation, defending the indefensible, making threats of bodily harm and blacklisting.

10. Who among us can defend putting 40,000 cubic yards of solid waste in the Old City Reservoir (resulting in fines and a consent order)? Plazabummers have regularly sewn hatred against me for reporting the City.

11, Who among us can defend five years of a leaking sieve of a "pipe" putting treated freshwater sewage effluent in our freshwater marsh (resulting in fines and a consent order)?

12. What else do the Plazabum posts involve? Bigoted, obscene, sexist, racist, homophobic, unscholarly libelous, slanderous, anti-reform and anti-progressive postings, full of ad hominems, non sequiturs and vile, vicious personal attacks.

13. Plazabum is not part of the "reality-based community."

14. Who founded Plazabum?

15. Plazabum was founded by a right-wing fringe group that includes Republican apparatchik MICHAEL GOLD, the former campaign manager for SHERIFF DAVID SHOAR.

16. Why was Plazabum founded?

17. For the express purpose of driving ho9meless people out of St. Augustine, later adding other hateful agendas. See MICHAEL GOLD's December 23, 2006 St. Augustine Record column, announcing the creation of Plazabum, referring to homeless people in hateful pejoratives.

18. Plazabummers are uncouth, unkind and a disgrace to our city.

19. Calling the delusional Plazabummers "terrorists" is damning with faint praise.

20. Plazabummers act like anti-literate energumen -- the KKK on steroids, hiding behind anonymity the way KKK hid behind hoods and robes.

21, Apparently, these are some of the very same people who harassed artists and entertainers on St. George Street and published 32 pages of anti-Gay hatred on the St. Augustine Record "Talk of the Town" website in connection with the Rainbow Flags on the Bridge of Lions). After I questioned their bigotry in 2006, three (3) of the 32 pages were deleted, apparently by City and County employees who wrongfully sought to influence our City of St. Augustine, hiding behind anonymity. This TOTT-induced orgy of bigotry resulted in a First Amendment violation by the City of St. Augustine on May 23, 2006. This vote forced our St. Augustine Pride Committee to go to Federal Court to vindicate the First Amendment rightsw our City of St. Augustine violated. United States District Judge Henry Lee Adams, Jr. ruled that the City of St. Augustine violated the First Amendment (once again), ordering Rainbow Flags to fly on our historic Bridge of Lions June 8-13, 2005. I agree with Jacksonville Business Journal reporter Mary Moewe, who eloquently said on WJCT's "Jacksonville Week in Review" that the Rainbow flags were beautiful. The soreheads on TOTT and Plazabum hate First Amendment protected activity when it is by anyone progressive who stands up for their rights. Their hiding behind the First Amendment is, at best facetious when you read their violent threats and expressed desire to run people out of town (as they did here in 1964).

22. What's really sad is that some City officials pretend like Plazabum (and TOTT) are vox populi, rather than vox rex (playing Cato the Censor or Charlie McCarthy to controversial City Manager-for-Life WILLIAM B. HARRISS' Edgar Bergen).

23. So, my dear misunderstood Plazabummers, isn't it long past time they "come out" and identfy yourselves? What are the Plazaummers ashamed of? The fact they're writing this rancid, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, libellous, slanderous, stuff from government computers while working people pay their fat salaries?

24. My religious tradition teaches forgiveness, even of the intentional tortfeasors on Plazabum. Confession is good for the soul. So, anonymous Plazabummers (other than the ones we've already identified on www.cleanupcityofstaugustine.b logspot.com): who are you and what qualifies you to sit in judgment of people who care deeokt about our community and want to see it improved?

25. Does being a City or County employee (or no-bid contractor or no-account relative) carry any responsibility? Or do y'all suppose that makes you Republican lords of all you survey? Does being WILLIAM B. HARRISS (or his heyboys or their family members) mean never having to say you're sorry? Speak!


I linked this post on XBEL-Specs to see whether I'm missing any ways it could be used for this project.







"Tadowe is a loser! Looooohooooozerrrrrrrr!!"

I became a "loser" in Vietnam, where my effort to stop a public torture, conducted by Vietnamese National Police, resulted in my being blacklisted as an Army intelligence officer.

I was a registered Democrat, at the time, and fighting for our Constitution, a Democrat president (Johnson), and the protection of a SEATO/UN ally and with the blessing of the UN and most of the international community.

Of course, when Democrats lost the election in '68, they started a subversion of the war, and blaming all of it on Nixon and Eisenhower and actively encouraging riot and insurrection; if not meeting secretly, and traitorously with our enemy, and destroying the hope for a settlement with the Peace Talks being conducted in Paris (John Kerry). The Democrats held publicly televised 'investigations' where lies were told underming the public's faith in our military and government under a Republican.

I became of 'loser' ... and at the hands of fellow Democrats ...

Now, after almost 8 years of the same effort to subvert the success of a war, under a Republican administration, it is PATRIOTIC to support a Democrat war in Afghanistan and Iraq!

I never became a Republican, so a win for Obama is just another demostration of the greed for power, and a 'win' for 'team' over nation which is slavishly practiced by Democrats - when the war isn't their party's.

Today's Democrats will *never* have my respect for their traitorous 'team' effort to gain votes by defaming our military, our president, and our nation's efforts to spread democracy and liberty in the world ...

I take pride in being called a 'loser' by anti-patriotic creeps!

(I look forward to your ilk's efforts to end-the-war by its blatant absence in fact, now, you betcha!)



















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