Lisa Schiffren: Obama's a Secret Commie Baby
Even though it's a product of the conservative National Review, I read The Corner because it's a great format for political blogging -- a bunch of writers of similar politics sharing links and exchanging ideas with each other. I wish there was a liberal counterpart that took the same conversational approach. (There's also nothing better than watching them suffer in real time on election night when the vote doesn't go their way.)
Sometimes, all that like-mindedness draws out ugly sentiments a political partisan wouldn't normally express in mixed company. For example, Lisa Schiffren thinks that Republicans should dig into Barack Obama's mixed-race parentage, because interracial babies born in the late '50s and early '60s were the product of a Communist conspiracy.
I'm not kidding. This outburst of full-on crazy was posted yesterday to one of the leading conservative web sites on the planet and drew only one response in opposition. Here's Schiffren's justification for muckraking Obama's conception:
Obama and I are roughly the same age. I grew up in liberal circles in New York City -- a place to which people who wished to rebel against their upbringings had gravitated for generations. And yet, all of my mixed race, black/white classmates throughout my youth, some of whom I am still in contact with, were the product of very culturally specific unions. They were always the offspring of a white mother, (in my circles, she was usually Jewish, but elsewhere not necessarily) and usually a highly educated black father. And how had these two come together at a time when it was neither natural nor easy for such relationships to flourish? Always through politics. No, not the young Republicans. Usually the Communist Youth League. Or maybe a different arm of the CPUSA. But, for a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or 60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics. ...
Time for some investigative journalism about the Obama family's background, now that his chances of being president have increased so much.
So if you're the child of black and white parents who is from 45 to 55, you're probably a "red diaper baby" unfit for public office, according to Schiffren. She's a former speechwriter for Vice President Dan Quayle who came up with the idea he should attack Murphy Brown for being a single mother, one of the most cringe-inducing moments of the 1992 presidential campaign, so she's proven herself to be the right's weirdest watchdogs of the womb.
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"Lisa Schiffren thinks that Republicans should dig into Barack Obama's mixed-race parentage, because interracial babies born in the late '50s and early '60s were the product of a Communist conspiracy."
Of course, Lisa made no claims to there being any 'conspiracy', and which is one of those counter-conspiracy exaggerations made by those of 'progressive' tendencies to misdirect their own support for socialism, or communism in its utopian perfection.
After the CPUSA was legitimized (Democratic Congress) the military services still investigated the background of those who sought postions of trust and responsibility with the government (classified access). It was considered significant when the parents of those seeking security clearances were found to have been, or were, communists; specially if they were members prior to legalization of the CPUSA (and its ilk).
Were in the military and other government services requiring classified access rightwing conservatives? Or rather were they careful to provide clearances to those who could be determined not to have doubtful backgrounds, and since the number of clearances is finite, while the number of applicants is infinite?
That the rightwing/Republicans would want to know the background of Barack Hussein Obama's expressed socialism is a valid inquiry -- not the propagandistic 'conspiracy' that socialists want to misdirect it as being ...
Indeed, the whole effort to snear at the term 'communist/communism' and mock those who have concerns regarding it, is a revelation of the depth of their own regard concerning the negative label it still represents to those who support socialism in the USA!
... and those are Democratics, for the most part ...
I think "conspiracy" is an apt description for Schiffren's suggestion that Communists infiltrated Mama Obama's babymaker. If people want to study the man, they should focus on his adulthood. Going after him at point of conception is about as comical as Hillary Clinton digging up his kindergarten homework.
Saying "Barack Hussein Obama" is like saying "Joe Tadowe McCarthy".
Admittedly, the second has a certain euphonious ring to it, but I have to take it back.
A more consistent comparison would be to say, "Joseph Tadowe Stalin".
As usual, Tadowe's 'logic' is flawed-- the number of applicants is not infinite, but I think that as long as he is alive, Tad's
output of bilious speech will appear to be unending.
Saying "Barack Hussein Obama" is like saying "Joe Tadowe McCarthy".
Admittedly, the second has a certain euphonious ring to it, but I have to take it back.
A more consistent comparison would be to say, "Joseph Tadowe Stalin".
As usual, Tadowe's 'logic' is flawed-- the number of applicants is not infinite, but I think that as long as he is alive, Tad's output of bilious speech will appear to be unending.
"I think "conspiracy" is an apt description for Schiffren's suggestion that Communists infiltrated Mama Obama's babymaker."
As you did originally, you fail to support why it IS a 'conspiracy'. Indeed, you do so avoid any reasoning because you know that it is no such thing as a 'conspiracy'. You merely use the word pejoratively to denigrate those who support the theory she proposes: liberals of that time were attracted to socialist idealism (communism).
Of course, Nature has a 'conspiracy' to produce infants when sexual attraction takes place ... is that what you mean? You can use the word 'innocently' in describing a natural process and then applying it to the 'enemy' ... those you hate and despise more than those performing human sacrifice to advance their religious hegemony over the world!?!
"If people want to study the man, they should focus on his adulthood. Going after him at point of conception is about as comical as Hillary Clinton digging up his kindergarten homework."
Of course, this restriction only applies to Barack Obama and leaves Republicans free to the minutest inspection possible -- as they have done to Obama in citing his 3rd grade occupation wish! Does hypocrisy never cease from the Left ...?
Vincent myoptically says, "Saying 'Barack Hussein Obama' is like saying 'Joe Tadowe McCarthy'."
I dote on being made the subject in debate, Vince. I know you won't believe that, though. You are sure that your personal attacks devastate me and cause me the angst you obviously already have, filled-up to the brim with me, eh?
"As usual, Tadowe's 'logic' is flawed-- the number of applicants is not infinite ..."
The number of applicants, over time, is 'infinite' in comparison to the 'finiteness' existing in the limited number of positions needing clearance(s) which are available, over time. Suck it up ...
Tadowe, I would have thought by now you would understand that I love you for all those magic moments that we shared together.
@"The number of applicants, over time, is 'infinite' in comparison to the 'finiteness' existing in the limited number of ..."
What a load of bullshit. Suck it back, huckster.
"What a load of bullshit. Suck it back, huckster."
Any objective reader can certainly see that you provide no support for your simple declaration; no refutation of the logic presented to you in support of my premis that investigating backgrounds is a valid and judicious tactic. It is one which can be applied to candidates for the position of president of the United States, and which should be applied to discover what influences their background might be to their present plans and ideology.
Instead, you misdirect by quibbling over the meaning of an incidental comment, but still provide absolutely no rebuttal even for that one, except a projection as an insult: "Huckster".
That's your word, Vince, and more accurately describes your efforts ad hominem -- pathetic and pitiful.
How many times have I been chuckling over some little bon mot I tossed hungry Tad's way, only to discover that he took it to heart, and his reply was earnestly serious.
He seems rather familiar with the 'angst' he ascribes to me, so familiar that it seems more likely he is suffering from its poignant pangs.
Just for that, he has to sleep on the LEFT side of the bed, tonight.
Impotent old trolls aren't so bad once you get to know them.
All it takes is to listen to Lisa try the same sideways inference and insinuation, or to read her most recent vicious, vitriolic, and hate-filled article for the 'National' Review (as if it represented more than a small slice of elite repugnican society). Anyone with a grain of sense can spot her agenda - spin as many types crap as fast, as foul, and as deep as possible and hope some of it will stick to Obama.
If we're going to sink to the level of school yard name-calling, then we'd best start wondering if McCain is the next incarnation of the Manchurian Candidate. He sure as heck isn't channeling Alan Greenspan. Good thing he got the handout bill (er, "bailout"...easy mistake to make) fixed before the debates. I was worried his sidetrip to Katy Couric was going to leave him short for time after he announced he was going to rescue the process.
Bob says, "... If we're going to sink to the level of school yard name-calling ..."
Unreal! Do you read these threads? The threads that show this site's "fascination" with rightwing vice presidential children's sexual lives?
And ... you come here like some callow young fellow, straight from Sunday School ... wondering about concern over whether Obama might have communist influences in his life?
Like someone standing at an interchange with a sign:
"Will play the ingenuous child for partisanship and party over nation votes."
I just saw Lisa Schiffren on the Bill Maher show --Wow.
She is an idiot.
tadowe:
pretty words yet nothing to say.
pity
Jay makes the effort, "pretty words yet nothing to say. pity"
Thank you. I know that you wouldn't have gone to the effort to deny any effectiveness in my commentary, if there actually wasn't any such point that was made. You count coup on yourself, but again my thanks ...
TADOWE IS RIGHT!!!
If the MSM had any honesty at all they would be investigating what REALLY happened to Comrade BHO's father.
The party line (literally) is that he was lost to some dark African machinations. He is subtracted from the story quite conveniently don't you think?
But this was a time when Marxist-Leninist Africans were up-front about their programs (unlike now!) Africa in the 60's and 70's was a dark dank cesspool of Moscow sponsored War on America.
It is SO OBVIOUS that Comrade BHO's father was "eliminated" because he
was having second thoughts about the larger plan in which he found himself and his seed involved.
They KNEW that their Operation Oreo would never work if he blew the whistle, so they got rid of him.
Unfortunately, communism IS a disease. It literally degenerates the cellular and genetic integrity of the human body, black or white. Just look at Cambodia!
Comrade BHO MAY NOT EVEN KNOW that he has been prepared for this initiation (but of course he does)....And knowing this, and knowing that communism courses through his blood, through the genes with which he has polluted his daughters, he still assumes the mantle of power.
THANK YOU TADOWE, THANK YOU! Thank you for defending those who
would sound the alarm before it is too late!!
Godspeed Christian Soldier!
It is easy to mock the "interest" that politically active people have in the candidates, of either party.
If McCain's father had been an avowed communist, having associations with communist causes, born out of wedlock, and of doubtful US citizenship, then of course it would be of *INTEREST* to Democrats, and they would investigate it, ad nauseam ... (all caps for immediate emphasis). The nightly news would have nothing else but the danger such "associations" might mean to the nation's security!
Your satire is jejune and ignores the burdgeoning neo-Communism of Putin's Russia, and his personal interest in a neo-International. As well as the "Progressive" movement of the radical Left; attempting to profit from war by reviling a war all the USA was fighting, in order to defame Bush and Republicans to garner votes - Democrats the War Profiteers for Votes Party uber Alles.
Indeed, that's why the Left is so desperate to mock conerns over communism - due to their socialistic efforts to destroy American capitalism, by using it to "buy-out" American business industries.
This present effort by the government to rob the public, a prime example of that effort to control the US economy via socialism. You neo-Communists (those who are) can just get used to the neo-Interest in your efforts to control personal freedom through socialism/excessive taxation.
SHIT!!! Code RED, Comrade Chavez!!!
Tadowe has found out about our plot to take over Goldman Sachs by
invading Georgia!
He seems to have also figured out that the collapse of Communism was just a big ruse to spread Communism when nobody was looking!
Thank God our Flouridation efforts in Florida are still working.
We'll have to switch Operation Oreo to Phase 3 sooner than we expected. I will alert Comrade Tina Fey through the usual channels.
Salaam!
I love the spam! Please continue with your efforts to equate Leftist Democrats and Chavez - brilliant sort of negative propaganda. Wasn't the "Bailout" the effort to buy Sachs under the control of a Democrat congress? Weren't Pelosi and Reed patting eachother's back over the saving of America by their efforts?
BTW, it was Putin who invaded Georgia - is that also part of the "spoof", to play the ignorant fool to attack "tadowe"?
Flouride is very chemically active and takes over the enamel of your teeth, and is not an imperialistic form of socialism.
What is "Operation Oreo"? Are you actually such a literal brick, that you would demonstrate racism (through projection) to mock me, personally?
Well, don't answer. The question is rhetorical, and the answer is, emphatically, Yes! [html markup used for emphasis]
I think Rogers is such a stick-in-the-mud about off-subject posts, because look how interesting satires and commentary about it is! I find the Left's sarcasms very interesting because they have to make up some lie or another, in order to mock it as representing their target. Why in the world they can't criticise directly? I just don't know; e.g., the rightwing radio satires and sarcasms, and which seem so much more effective for mocking the truth and, or the facts, instead of lies ... smiley ...
How far did Weepy Tom make it before sobbing about Roger's moderation policy?
Just five paragraphs.
But then...
the tears...
began...
to flow.
In paragraph six.
No self control.
"I'm not kidding. This outburst of full-on crazy was posted yesterday to one of the leading conservative web sites on the planet and drew only one response in opposition. Here's Schiffren's justification for muckraking Obama's conception:"
whatever lieing slanderous "muckraker" conceived the above is not worthy for the passage of that name (Lisa) past it's sordid lips, much less has it earned its' right to even exist. It is a negative power. Part of the PROBLEM, NOT part of the cure.
Truth remains truth, regardless of course, of what delusional new wavers might call it. Imagine, people more oppressive than mussolini, sincerely believing themselves to be 'liberal'. Make no mistake, too true to be funny. Time now for vigilance, more than ever before. Kudos to Lisa and all truthsayers braving the attacks of all those that shun the light. The monkeys that fling their own dirt on their BETTERs.
HOW COULD ANYONE BE ALLOWED TO BECOME PRESIDENT BE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF WITHOUT ANY MILITARY SERVICE OR RELATED EDUCATION.ALSO WITH OBAMA HAVING MANY COMMUNIST INFLUENCES IN A CHURCH BEFORE REVEREND WRIGHTS COMMENTS AND A WIFE WHO NEVER REALLY RESPECTED AMERICA BEFORE OBAMA WAS ELECTED.HOW MANY MORE LIES FROM THIS PEA BRAIN ARE GOING TO BE TOLERATED!
Nearly half of the 43 US Presidents never saw combat.
Presidents with no military experience:
John Adams,
Thomas Jefferson,
John Quincey Adams,
Martin Van Buren,
Grover Cleveland (two non-consecutive terms as President),
William Taft,
Woodrow Wilson,
Warren Harding,
Calvin Coolidge,
Herbert Hoover,
Franklin Roosevelt and
Bill Clinton.
Presidents who were in the military but saw no action:
James Madison,
James Polk,
Millard Filmore,
Jimmy Carter,
Ronald Reagan (deliberately kept from combat due to poor vision) and
George W. Bush (went AWOL from National Guard).
president buckwheat's mom was a commie loving mudshark so were her parents.she started mudsharking with frank davis and his commie jew wife until she got pregnant and blamed it on the african muzzie.there are no marriage certificates or divorce papers which makes hussein a bastard in more ways than one.in typical behavior stanly ann droped barry hussein on the commie grand parents while she went mudsharking in the third world.ol barry has always taken up with commies in school and out all his pals are commie traitors. i see some of you mention Joe mccarthy but do you know he was right the democrats were riddled with commie traitors and they still are.
1 Obama's parents aren't communist. His mom was idealistic cared about the world. Was somewhat involved in the political and social change of the sixties, which is something to be proud of. That is not the same thing as a Marxist Leninist believe me liberals and communists are not that alike they usually can't stand each other. Even if Obama had a parent that was a communist only a upper class elitist republican snob would use what someones parents did or whether they were married of not when he was born as a claim that he is not the right kind of people we need in the White House. Keep those riffraff out its not like this is a democracy or something. Seriously some of you guys conservatist fervor is so strong that you are not only against the Proletarian Revolution you're against the American Revolution of 1776. its not about who your parents are, Tories. A lot of people rebel against their parents anyways and from reading about "red diaper babies" for a school project some of them turned out to be quite conservative. To suggest the child of a communist will be a communist is surprisingly pro-communist. And last of all the 800 pound gorilla in this room is racism. Thats at the core of this. You think two people have to be part of a politcal plot to fall in love or have sex or get married. You think that races shouldn't mix and wonder what a proper white lady would be doing marrying a "savage" from Africa. Its 2009 not 1809 seriously.
bongo's grandparents and his wacked out mother were commies as were their friends like frank davis and his wife.the davis family was very fond of stanley ann as you can tell by the nice pictures they took of ann with her pants down.bongo grew up a muslim with his head stuffed full of marxis bull shit, ragheads and affirmative action got him into harvad.commies got him into community organizing and politics.now he and his commie pals are in the white house and all you 52er's bend over while he screws you.
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