Pastor: God Destroyed New Orleans
Agape Press, the publishing division of the American Family Association, issued a press release Friday quoting a New Orleans pastor who celebrates the devastation in New Orleans for wiping out "much of the rampant sin common to the city."Rev. Bill Shanks, pastor of New Covenant Fellowship of New Orleans in Metairie, said that he warned for years God would pass judgment on the city:
New Orleans now is abortion free. New Orleans now is Mardi Gras free. New Orleans now is free of Southern Decadence and the sodomites, the witchcraft workers, false religion -- it's free of all of those things now. God simply, I believe, in His mercy purged all of that stuff out of there -- and now we're going to start over again. ...
It's time for us to stand up against wickedness so that God won't have to deal with that wickedness.
More than 10,000 people are feared dead in Louisiana after the landfall of Hurricane Katrina and six days of severe privation in the flooded city of New Orleans.
Southern Decadence, a yearly gay pride event expected to bring 100,000 people to the French Quarter this year, had been scheduled to occur from Aug. 30 through Sept. 5.
Shanks, who has protested at abortion clinics, the ACLU, and Southern Decadence, told Associated Press in 2004 that legalization of same-sex marriage would doom the city:
One Category 5 hurricane coming up the river will take care of all Sodomite marriages ... I believe this will open the floodgate for God to bring judgment on our land.
He also prophesied an end to murder in New Orleans during a 2004 gathering of Operation Rescue if abortion clinics shut down.
Shanks and some members of his church evacuated to the High Place Campsite in Florence, Miss., according to an Operation Rescue web site affiliated with the pastor.
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Interesting that the French Quarter, the source of most of the sin in NO, was spared.
I think the casinos in MS were the target because of all the fat men getting rich off the poor.
Weird how when ever nature sends a disaster our way, there are people ready to exploit it for their own beliefs. If the storm really were sent by an invisible man from a gold city in outerspace named "God"...isn't it a bit arrogant to assume it was for your pet cause? After all, what was targetted seems to be the a lot of refineries, the nations oil supply, and an overstretched national guard. One mightjust as easily--and wrongly--assume a supernatural being was punishing us for the blundering Iraqi War. But we need not ascribe that to "God"... simply the stupidity of our "leader."
RAmen! May the Flying Spaghetti Monster protect you from wayward storms.
Rev. Bill Shanks is Satan himself.
No, Shanks is Satans ass. Rev Fred Phelps is Satan.
Man, that's almost a crazy as this.
American Family Ass./Agape Press exemplify the religious psychosis found in the less than human' Christian mentalities across the US revealing its cognitive dissonance in the wake of Hurricane Katrina... It is not a benign form of psycho-neurosis, but rather a severe level of clinically insane psychosis producing twilight zoned surreal apocalyptic doomsday realities for the Christian faith-full of shit. What is most dangerous about their religious psychosis is that it is as self-protective as a virulent virus in the mind. Those suffering the most from virulent strains of religious psychosis like Mormons, Catholics and Evangelicals realize it the least.
t is a True Believer faith-based psychosis that requires them to be intolorant and dependently attached to dogmatic Christian beliefs with a narrow-minded intolerance towards other beliefs opposing their own. To confront the actual reality of natural disasters only serves to confront the surreal twilight zoned faux reality they've created for themselves; forcing them to deny their faith, their imaginary SkyGod and any rational reality presenting scientific reasons behind such devastation.
These fallacious Christian end times beliefs fostered by most all Gulf state residents lead them to overwhelming vote for a Bush-GOP government. A Neofascist radical theocratic government with offensive policies directly responsible for global warming today that's killing their fellow Gulf area Christians by the 1000s, destroying their homes and reeking havoc in their lives that they continue to insist is caused by an imaginary, invisible skygod as a sign of a welcomed doomsday. A reason why Rasmussen pollsters referred to this last election as the Armageddon election'.
Unfortunately Christian True Believers will never take responsibility for their misdeeds and wrongful actions because of the nature of their mental disorder that will never allow them to do so until they are brought back to an earth bound human' level of reason based reality rather than a faith based one. As the masochistic affects of religions were realized to be self-destructive 150 years ago, I am confident the severe psychotic affects of a highly distorted or lost reality from religious faith based beliefs will also be realized in another 150 years. If the world's religions don't destroy both humans and each others' less than human religious adherents first ...
When future 21st century historians look back and place blame for devasting early and likely middle 21st century hurricanes in the Gulf States, sufficient empirical evidence will then be available to prove it can be leveled solely onto the preponderance of Christians living there and throughout America who fully supported the Bush-GOP regime responsible for unprecedented destruction of the environment directly causing the planet's global warming.
i'd rather be in hell than in heaven with a man like shanks
Trent Lott's house was destroyed. Does that mean he's a godless heathen too?
skanks, you have it all wrong. katrina is georgie's punishment for his sins against humanity in iraq. this is bush's waterloo. congress blue in 2006, then we will impeach
How long will it be before the average Christian wakes up to the fact that Christianity is bullshit and the leaders of this mythical clap trap are a bunch of losers trying to drag their flock down to their level.
i think this pretty much sums it all up for me.
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
... Susan B. Anthony
i've been waiting for the god distroyed new orleans because it was a sinful city rhetoric. because, personnaly, i think it punishment for the war in iraq, and the spaghetti monster is royally pissed.
People that hear voices and believe in fairy tales usually are diagnosed with Schizophrenia and put on heavy duty psychotropic drugs. Think about it Moses hears a voice from a burning bush. Jesus talks to his father by staring into the sky. They would be locked up in the local hospital.
So its time to round up the fundamentalists in Congress and the White House and provide them with free electro-shock therapy.
i can't wait for the day when you all realize how wrong you are.
electro-shock therapy...
dude, that's evil, but extremely funny!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil.2:5-11
28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:28-31
2 Timothy 3
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:30-39
17This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20But ye have not so learned Christ; 21If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. 26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27Neither give place to the devil. 28Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. 29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:18-30
God destroyed New Orleans. YOU folks HATE the fact that the God you rejected is alive and well and Judging your sins. oh, You THOUGHT He was gone, a myth. You thought you had the victory over the christians who have warned you for years. Now your fear is at your door, and you hate the fact that you might be next.
20And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Revelation 9:20-21
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. 28And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
This Pastor may be right, and we all should repent as this could be us or our families. No one person is without sin, and is danger of God's judgement. Here today and gone tomorrow. Repent.
Luke 13
1There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 4Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
The destruction of New Orleans reminds of Sodom and Gomorrah.. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the people's wickedness.. were .He also sent a flood that wiped out the population. At the time, only Noah was righteous. May the people of New Orleans open their eyes and turn to God during this tragic time..
The destruction of New Orleans reminds of Sodom and Gomorrah.. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the people's wickedness..He also sent a flood that wiped out the population. At the time, only Noah was righteous. May the people of New Orleans open their eyes and turn to God during this tragic time..
All I can say is don't mess with
God. The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and He will lift you up. Only God knows why He allowed this terrible disaster with Katrina. The Bible is against homosexuality, lewdness, witchcraft, and abortion. And mentions many times about natural disasters happening as the judgement from God in response to unrepented sin. If you want the truth of whether there is a God. Ask God to show you the truth, and He will. I know God is real. There has been too many supernatural occurences in my life. All I can say is don't piss God off. I did and saw firsthand the devastation he can bring - the entire bedroom wall made of glass shattered into tiny fragments in a split second. I thought the wind blew my lamp down and it shattered. When I walked into the room I knew in my heart that God was pissed off. The wall thing happended in a split second after praying to God and telling him he was unjust. My neighbors and I were shocked as you can imagine. That was the last time I raised my fist to God in anger. You might think that could be from a natural occurence like a rock thrown into the glass or a bird flying into the glass wall, thats what I thought but there were no signs of rocks, objects, birds, etc. Even the police were unable to explain what happened. But I knew it was God. And that He loves me and corrected me when I was wrong. Just as He loves and corrects those who don't listen to Him and don't do what the Bible says. The Bible says you must be born again. The Bible says, "today is the day of salvation"! Don't wait until its too late. Jesus loves you, God loves you. Just say Jesus come into my heart today, and He will. And I can say, your life will not be the same. You will have peace that cannot be explained!
Please. Put the old testament down for a moment, and start using your brain. Do you think God is really going around killing people? Sodom and Gomorrah happened well before Christ's death on the cross, which transformed sin into a personal thing between the sinner and his god. It sounds like you all just don't get that the whole vengeful God thing is part of the past. It's up to you to live the way Christ taught (NEW testament trumps the old, boneheads), and I think Jesus would slap you in your selfish face for celebrating the death of thousands because you're freaked out by gay people. Besides, most of the dead are black, poor, non-Southern Decadence celebrants - you'd think a vengeful God would have better aim. I mean, he didn't *used to* slaughter people who had nothing at all to do with his righteous anger. Anyway, I'm offering up a simple prayer that you all stop being so stupid, and think possibly about showing the humanity and compassion of Christ to those who have suffered, and leave the judgement to God, where it belongs.
Dear Editor:
I personally lived through two natural disasters, (the snow storms of 1967 and 1977) and two race riots-the Long Hot Summer of '67 and the Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination Riots. During those frightening days and sometimes nights, trapped smack dab in the middle of a West Side Chicago ghetto with the Vice Lords and other street gangs around to make things even worse, I can tell you that some Black people around me behaved badly-to put it mildly.
Most of us did not.
Back then I don't recall Harry Belafonte, Sidney Portier, Ossie Davis, Ruby Dee, Bill Cosby, or Dick Gregory ignoring the bullets being shot by Black people at Black people so they could grind on about racism. I don't remember singers or groups like Marvin Gaye, The Temptations or the Four Tops ranting about how much our government "doesn't love Black people." Instead, they used their forum to call for peace and calmness in the face of chaos.
Right now, the nation and most of the world is once again being slapped in the face with horrific images of many Black people falling apart and dying in the wake of one of the worst Hurricanes in history. It's sad. But what is worse are how our so-called Black leaders are responding to the crisis.
I have heard a Black mayor screaming obscenities at the White House. I have heard Black singers saying that our President doesn't love Black people. I have heard every thing coming from the mouths of ministers, politicians and entertainers, except one little word: RESPONSIBILITY.
I think it's disgusting-especially in the face of the hard, cold facts concerning New Orleans.
FACT: THE LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT WERE WARNED TO PREPARE FOR THE EXACT SCENARIO THAT TOOK PLACE IN HURRICANE KATRINA.
Experts: Models predicted New Orleans disaster
Friday, September 2, 2005; Posted: 3:11 p.m. EDT (19:11 GMT)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Virtually everything that has happened in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina struck was predicted by experts and in computer models, so emergency management specialists wonder why authorities were so unprepared.
"The scenario of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was well anticipated, predicted and drilled around," said Clare Rubin, an emergency management consultant who also teaches at the Institute for Crisis, Disaster, and Risk Management at George Washington University.
Computer models developed at Louisiana State University and other institutions made detailed projections of what would happen if water flowed over the levees protecting the city or if they failed.
In July 2004, more than 40 federal, state, local and volunteer organizations practiced this very scenario in a five-day simulation code-named "Hurricane Pam", where they had to deal with an imaginary storm that destroyed over half a million buildings in New Orleans and forced the evacuation of a million residents.
At the end of the exercise Ron Castleman, regional director for the Federal Emergency Management Agency declared: "We made great progress this week in our preparedness efforts.
"Disaster response teams developed action plans in critical areas such as search and rescue, medical care, sheltering, temporary housing, school restoration and debris management. These plans are essential for quick response to a hurricane but will also help in other emergencies," he said.
In light of that, said disaster expert Bill Waugh of Georgia State University, "It's inexplicable how unprepared for the flooding they were." He said a slow decline over several years in funding for emergency management was partly to blame.
QUESTION: SINCE THE CITY AND STATE OFFICIALS KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE FACE OF HURRICANE KATRINA, WHERE WERE THE SUPPLIES AND THE MONEY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME?
That same week marked the beginning of New Orleans' 34th Annual "Southern Decadence", which according to the organizers welcomed 125,000 people into New Orleans for a week of "sexual excess." It was supposed to kick off on August 31, 2005.
Ray Nagin, that angry mayor we saw on TV, raging at the White House somehow managed to organize food, water and beds for thousands of people coming in for a sexual fest. He even had an official welcome ready a week before Katrina hit. Yet, this same politician couldn't figure out how to place enough food, water and medical care for half that number in the place they had designated for a disaster shelter. Why?
FACT: NEW ORLEANS HAD A LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHERE WERE THEY?
Many of the police officers were reported as taking off their badges and simply not reporting for duty when things began to fall apart.
Thursday, Sept. 1
12:11am.
New Orleans Police Department Status: The situation for the NOPD is critical. This is firsthand information I have from an NOPD officer we're giving shelter to. Their command and control infrastructure is shot. They have limited to no communication whatsoever. He didn't even know the city was under martial law until we told him! His precinct (5th Precinct) is underwater! UNDERWATER -- every vehicle underwater. They had to commander moving trucks like Ryder and U-Haul to get around. The coroner's office is shut down so bodies are being covered in leaves at best or left where they lie at worst.
They don't even know their own rules of engagement. He says the force is impotent right now. They have no idea what's going on, no coordination, virtually no comms, etc. the National Guard is gonna airdrop a radio system for them with 200 radios? They are getting very little direction.
The 3rd District bugged out to Baton Rouge because they flooded out.
His quote: "It's a zoo."
More firsthand information direct from him shortly. He's trying to recover.
I am not trying to be an alarmist, but until we get a military presence of significance in the city, the roving gangs of thugs own the streets
And there's even worse news ...
Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2005 10:21 a.m. EDT New Orleans Cops Join in Looting A handful of police in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans joined with looters yesterday in cleaning out store shelves and pilfering merchandise that had nothing to do with survival. While the overwhelming majority of Big Easy cops were performing admirably under staggeringly difficult circumstances, an NBC camera crew filming looters at a local Wal-Mart captured two policewomen filling a shopping cart to the brim with shoes.
Asked what she was doing, one of the unidentified officers told reporter Martin Savidge: "I'm just doing my job" Her partner apparently continued looting unfazed by NBC's presence.
The New Orleans Times-Picayune also carried reports of police looting, noting in Wednesday editions:
"Some officers joined in taking whatever they could, including one New Orleans cop who loaded a shopping cart with a compact computer and a 27-inch flat screen television. Officers claimed there was nothing they could do to contain the anarchy, saying their radio communications had broken down and they had no direction from commanders."
"We don't have enough cops to stop it," one beleaguered cop told the paper. "A mass riot would break out if you tried."
DAVID MARK: New Orleans citizen, Raymond Cooper, told CNN the situation was dire.
RAYMOND COOPER: When we got here there was no one to tell us what to do, no one to direct us, no authority figure. They had a couple of policemen out here, about six or seven policemen told me directly when I went to tell them, hey man, you've got bodies in there, you've got two old ladies that just passed, just had died, people dragging the bodies into little corners.
One guy, that's how I found out. The guy had said, hey man, anybody sleeping over here? I'm like, no. He dragged two bodies in there. Now I just found out there was a lady and an old man. The lady went to nudge him. He's dead. And (inaudible) bodies. And you've got these young teenage bodies running around, they're raping these girls.
DAVID MARK: And the authorities don't appear to know what's happening.
QUESTION: WAS THIS LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INCOMPETENCE THE FAULT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
NO. And quite a few of the officers who should have been out saving civilians were just as Black as I am. Yet, they refused to save Black people. Where was their "love?"
FACT: MANY OF THE RESCUERS WERE UNABLE TO GET NEAR THE SICK, THE ELDERLY OR THE STRANDED, BECAUSE SNIPERS AND LOOTERS WERE SHOOTING AT THEM.
Many volunteers risked their lives to rescue residents stranded in and atop their homes. Other people selflessly shared what little necessities they had on hand.
But food, fresh water and medicine soon grew scarce. Thousands of hungry and tired storm victims became restless waiting for buses to evacuate them from the ruined city. In the midst of this desperate situation, human nature reared its ugly head.
Fights broke out. Police were fired upon. Vehicles were carjacked. Stores were looted. Women were raped in the restrooms of the Superdome. Every New Orleans hospital reported that, as evacuation helicopters tried to land, people shot at them, shouting, "You better come get my family." At two hospitals, patients had to be moved to higher floors to escape looters. Because street gangs and other criminals vastly outnumbered the police, National Guardsmen had to be sent in to help restore order. Despite this, a National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as a man scuffled with him for the MP's rifle. Rescuers in boats and helicopters had to suspend rescue operations when their valiant efforts were met with gunfire. ("The Real Truth")
QUESTION: WHAT COLORS WERE THE PEOPLE SHOOTING AT THE RESCUERS? WHAT COLORS WERE THE RAPISTS? DID THEY COME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE OR WERE THEY LOCAL?
The people with guns weren't forcing their way out so they can live, but running wild so people can die. Black and White people tried airlifting out the sick and the dying. But, snipers shot at them. Black snipers.
What does it say about our values as a culture when we shoot ourselves?
The singer, Kanye West says, "George Bush doesn't care about Black people." Well, the Black people in that city and in that dome had every opportunity to care about each other as Black people right then and right there and for the most part they failed to care at all.
We, as a people used to hold ourselves responsible for our own behavior. Our elders said, "Clean up your own backyard, before you start pitching a fit at someone else's mess next door." Back then we didn't blame good or bad White people for bad Black behavior.
I think it is time that we followed that advice and started taking a good, hard look at what we are responsible for in our own lives.
It is easy to blame the people in Washington D.C. for the chaos in New Orleans. But the FACTS are that both the White and the Black politicians in the Big Easy have known for years that their ability to respond to a hurricane or flood was pathetic. The morals and civic honesty in that town with cesspool like factories and a sex trade that featured live Triple X shows with animals and children were a joke. No one cared about this underbelly of laziness and corruption when the sun was shining. But the storm suddenly turned the world's attention to New Orleans and what we are seeing isn't very pretty.
In the aftermath, we need to ask some questions about local responsibility. Where was the money that the local government had allotted for hurricane preparations? It certainly didn't end up in the Superdome. Where was the local, financial in terms of support for the levees and gas for the buses that could have evacuated the people still left in the town before the levees broke? That was discussed in the many pages of reports written before the disaster. Why weren't they implemented?
1) There was local and state money available to purchase what was needed days before that storm hit. WHY WASN'T THAT USED? HOW WAS THAT SPENT?
2) There were buses and trains ready to take everyone out of the city.
WHY WASN'T THAT DONE? WHO WAS LOCALLY IN CHARGE?
3) There were enough people and guns able to band together and protect each other when the rapes and the looting started. WHY DIDN'T THE PEOPLE PROTECT THE WEAK AND INNOCENT?
I mentioned that I had been through four instances of both natural and manmade disasters. I survived rioting and looting many years ago because Black people stopped blaming the "Big House" and took care of our own, instead of shooting each other.
And then, once the smoke cleared, many people wanted to blame the officials somewhere else for they saw as an inadequate response to our problems. But in Chicago's case back in 1977, we found that the money earmarked to clean up our natural snow disasters turned up in the pockets of many of the local officials who were supposed to be in charge of emergency preparedness.
Could we have the same situation in New Orleans 2005? Could there be money earmarked for hurricane response missing from the local coffers? Is anyone going to ask at all? Or is that being too politically incorrect?
When a super storm came to one of our biggest cities, our Black leadership was found to be inadequate in every way. It's time to repent, Black America! It's time to get back to our old values and do what's right instead following after Sodom and Gomorrah.
Now, as a people, are we going to take some responsibility and deal with these hard questions? Or are we going to continue to blame the White Man in the Big, White House?
Yours truly,
Trimelda C. McDaniels, Episcopal Pastor
Christ Charismatic Liturgical Church
Here is food for thought.
I think that the disaster that happened to New Orleans and surrounding areas was the judgement of God and here is why I think so...
1. The disengagement... America's participation in it and our support of it.
2. The rampant sin, homosexuality, abortion, lawlessness, loss of the fear of God.
3. We kicked God out. (this nation was founded on Godly principals) In the beginning of our beloved nation God blessed our country, it grew and prospered, God had a protective hedge around us. but now... people are crying "take IN GOD WE TRUST off of our currency, take UNDER GOD out of our pledge, take prayer out of our schools, take down the ten commandments from our courts... get the picture? we have kicked God out. He, being the gentleman that he is, left... and we he did... down came the hedges of protection.
I don't believe that God "Done it" but I believe that he stepped back and allowed it to happen. We can't have it both ways... we can't say one moment oh God help us... and the next moment... we don't need God.
Jesus Christ is alive and well... he is not up there scratching his head wondering "What is going on"... he is in control. Let him have control of you.
Ask Jesus to come into your heart and forgive you of your sin and turn from sin. He will answer your prayer. He will come into your heart, he will forgive your sin and you will be born again.
Jesus is coming soon... friend... please don't be blinded... Every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Isn't it so much better to come out of love and with a willing spirit of love than to do so later out of fear of upcoming judgement on your soul
REPENT AMERICA...
It rains on the just and the unjust...
babies were killed in the flood too...
children were killed at Sodom...
Don't be fooled... God is not mocked...
I don't believe the children went to hell but they did lose their lives because of their parents foolishness and rebellion to a loving but righteous God.
God didn't destory New Orleans, global warming did.
Wow, God must be getting old or weak. The god I studied about in church was all powerful! If he wanted to wipe out New Orleans and the evil doers there he seems to have missed. The French Quarter, which most would agree is where most of the "bad" stuff goes on only suffered wind damage and will live on! The poor people of New Orleans however, got the worse of "gods wrath". Wonder what they did to him? Those poor people from Mississippi, tragic that they were just in the way of god's attempt at destroying New Orleans ... Even worse ... god the creator of the world and heavens can't even destroy a city any more. So silly that we still believe in this non-sense!
I think God was punishing the south for being supporters of a murdering corrupt coward named dubya. God alsoprobably wasn't too happy about the number of golden calfs like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and other agents of satan that the south worships.
It was a warning and a judgment. This is only the beginning of sorrows. The earthquake unparalleled in one hundred years causing a tsunami that shifted the earth's axis a jot of a degree and wiped out islands and peoples, in the aftermath (emphasis on aftermath) of a hurricane levees break and floodwaters rise, and another hurricane lazily skirts the coastline proving the Lord can do anything and we should rely on Him for His graces and mercies in the Lord Jesus Christ, His only Begotten Son. The catastophe of New Orleans was also as much a sign of mercy in that it was spared a direct hit contrary to expectations. But why the focus on that city that harbored unrepentant rapists, thieves, liars, witches, and sexual immorality and furthermore celebrated all these things? What about other towns and cities along the coasts of Louisiana and Mississippi? There are other people suffering who deserve as much care and love and assistance. Stop focusing on a city laid waste. I would prefer the port not to be rebuilt, but as I am not of this world, my concern is with the children left parentless, the people left homeless, jobless, the victims of abuse from those who thrived on vigilante chaos and destruction (they who hurt the innocent have their reward unless they too repent), and on the poor who were not afforded the attentions or luxuries of the wealthy in evacuation (face it, if you can't pay all your bills on time, how can you afford to make arrangements to stay at a hotel/motel or rent a car to evacuate?). The news organizations all owned by a few rich people who are so focused on the city of New Orleans where an abundance of their wealth may come through, which is as decadent as Las Vegas. Nevertheless, let our focus as the sons and daughters of God thanks to the Lord Jesus (blessed is His name forever and ever) be on the small towns and parishes where people are struggling independently due to gov't intervention only in the city (in part due to concentration of wealth there); and let us begin praying the Lord to send His workers and if called to do so, may He grant us the courage, the faith and the desire to go and do His work in ministering both to the physical and spiritual needs of the saints of God and to the unbelievers that they might come to see the love of Christ Jesus in us and then come to Him for salvation from their sins. All be to the glory of the Lord God Almight in our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ.
More Judgement comming for those FAGGOTS if they dont clean up their act !! I personally hope the City is Bulldozed to the ground and everyone blames the Faggots for all this. Time to change ur ways guys if ya'll dont want more to come. That is only the tip of the Iceberg I kid you not !!
Chevy, you seem upset. Did you have a fight with your boyfriend?
"Such love has no fear because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of judgement, and this shows that his love has not been perfected in us. We love each other as a result because his loving us first." 1John 4:18
We will face difficult times in this age but always remember Jesus will encourages his creation not to put their hope in this world. Hope is found in the name of Jesus.
About time that judgement begins in our land.
It's ironic that 2 weeks prior to Katrina, we made Israel pull out of the Gaza strip, then bang, Katrina hits. Plus that Southern Decadence was supposed to be the week.
I believe this is the beginning of His judgment, and I say bring it on, and look up for our redemption. Praise the Lord.
You are a bunch of nut cases. It was a hurricane, just like there have been hurricanes for thousands of years. It just so happens this one was worsened by an inept, evil president.
There are a lot of outsiders coming in to clean up New Orleans. Is the New Orleans government hiring the local people who really need the work and money to start over to help clean up and rebuild their own city? If yes, how many? How is that process working? Are people stepping up for jobs?
Really there no reason to celebrate a destruction of New Orleans or cassinos on Mississipi but their people must think about. For those who do not believe in God or His punishment the life will go on after they comes back there - dancing, music, funny, foods, drugs, drinks, killings, stealings, rape and liberal free life style. Well the human being is free to choose their way. For those who believe in God and His punishment like me - just prayer to sinner people began reflect and seek the God's face before they die and face the last judgement.
Strange how nobody questions the paths of hurricanes that swept over Florida. Judgement from God, indeed:
I just wanted to find a place to say that as a very ordinary person living far away from you all in NO, never having been there myself etc that I pray the LORD will help you to stand firm in Him, the solid rock. The LORD longs to save all who would turn to him and I pray many will realise his great love and mercy through their misery, pain and grief in the aftermath of these hurricanes, wherever they happen in America. I am proud of Christians who are bold and stand for God's truth and call sin, sin. I feel sorry for those who responded at the beginning of these comments who do not know peace, contentment, joy and love through a deep satisfying relationship with Christ, himself.
I want to encourage you Christians in NO to deal first with any sin in your own lives so that you can be used by God in an amazing way in these days to bring hope and life to many who are now destitute. Let your lives reflect God's glory by surrendering all to Him.
Do not be discouraged by the words or actions of those who do not know God, remember they are infact in desperate need of Him.
2Chronicles 32v7
"Be strong and courageous, do not be dismayed.... for there are more with us than with him"
So let me get this straight- God uses HURRICANES to Punish Sin?
SO Sinners live on the shoreline?Grow Up! Clean up your own back yard and dont judge!
Message for>>> Trimelda C. McDaniels, Episcopal Pastor
Christ Charismatic Liturgical Church
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I know of a white sniper in New Orleans
Will you write a story about him? or just the blacks? You must have a white only church! DId you know that Humans came from AFRICA! Grow UP!
Helen Keller once said that without the darkness of the skies, one would not see the brilliance of the stars. Without things like hurricanes, cancer, etc would we really see how good Good is? Would we really understand how evil Evil is? I use devastation like Katrina to make me value God more; as I see how fleeting life and possessions are, I appreciate what He offers as a Savior more and more.
I think the Rev who preaches about Katrina being God's judgement needs to be very very careful. God tells us not to rejoice when sudden calamity comes upon others. We should grieve for them and be on our face thankful that we ourselves have been rescued. We should also speak about other attributes of God... for "the kindness of the Lord leads to repentance". We should be careful not to speak too quickly about those who were affected as if "they" were all sinners... for many Christians who love Jesus are being gang-raped and are dying in Sudan. Learning from Job we can say that sometimes very righteous people receive trials that are overwhelming. Let us not be persumptuous and assume we know with certainty who God is judging and who He is not....He tells us very clearly that He is allowing the tares and the wheat to grow up together and one day at the Harvest we will know who is what. He WILL "judge both the living and the dead" and for that I am sobered, because I must stand before Him claiming only Jesus as my Hope. I am a sinner, though forgiven. I have nothing to be proud about.
I applaud Pastor Timelda's post on so many points. Although I am white, I have a great heart for racial reconciliation and was groaning at the wasted opportunities self-appointed "Black leaders" made.
Instead of using their influence as MLK Jr did, they used their words to sow discord, hate, and bitterness over a natural disaster no one of any race could have prevented or adequately planned for.
I have a poor, handicapped black man living with me, so I feel justified in saying this...USE YOUR POWER/MONEY/WORDS FOR GOOD. It is easy to spout off at the mouth, hard to put your life on the line and DO SOMETHING. Jesus is about faith and action.... if our faith is genuine, and we love Him, we will certainly speak the truth, even when unpopular as MLK Jr did, in 1 Cor.13 style.... in LOVE... and will overflow in our lives into the lives of others to help.
BE what you want others to see God as. Truthful, yes, but full of grace and fruit of the Spirit.
Is God gonna destroy Jesus loving texans? You bet. Natue hates Bush voting Christians! Father God's love can not beat Mother NATURES HATE!
Bush is no Christian, he's appart of the Satanic order of skull and bones as is his father. God hates Bush and his father because they are the ones who have helped to ignite hate in the arab world. They are the ones responsible for 911, Katrina, Rita, the tsunani. Think about it, ever since Bush has been in office this apocolyps has been going great! Never in history has so much tradety been brought on a nation just because of the presence of one man and everything he really represents. He has been useing nieve Bible believing Christians to unleash 666 the beast! When he gets to his Christian heaven he will have a lot to answer for.
Rich White Repulicans did't care about the poor black people in New Orleans before Katrina, and now that they are wandering in search of food and fun most white southern christians want nothing to do with them. Rich white Republicans knew that many of the "looters" wanted to do it for a long time and when the hurricain hit it was a perfect exuse to do what they,ve wanted to do for so long anyway. The poor black people have wanted free food and shelter for years and now we have to supply them with just that. republicans know what they're looking at, they are forced to have compassion on thousands of people who they wanted to rid themselves of before the storm, the sad truth is that they just wish they would die. The last thing comfertable whites are intrested in doing is dealing with thousands of poor blacks {many of which were not intrested in working prior to the storm and now are even more emotionaly damaged because of the storm}. White America,s worst nightmare is accomadating thousands of homless black people in search of eternal sources food and fun. {many are also looking for alot of drugs}
I feel sorry for all of you that are stumbling around in the darkness. We are in the last days. God is preparing his bride!! You better hope that he doesn't pass you by. It's not a white or black thing, it's not about President Bush, it's not about New Orleans, it's about the Lord Almighty and His love for you. You were created to worhip Him. He is trying to get your attention. There is freedom for you. You all are so bound by satan. I pray for deliverance for all of you that are blinded by the enemy of your soul.
Wow, the last comment about people being created to worship "God" makes me irate. What kind of self-absored BASTARD (because your god has no apparent father) creates an entire universe with billions and billions of planets (which if 1/10 of those sustain life, is an 'ungodly' amount of living organisms) just to worship him. Why does He need such a following? Is he compensating for something? Perhaps the idea is that if he combines the intelligence of all the people who believe in Him, it might equal out to my own personal intelligence. That's his only hope for the pay-per-view ME Vs. GOD match. If he exists, when I die, I'm comin' after him.( But really, think about it, the very idea of God is BOGUS.)
Oh, and why doesn't the Bible mention other Galaxies? Why doesn't it mentions the thousands of possibilites of other life sustaining planets. Probably because the retards who stole the Christian Bible from various Hebrew and Babylonian scripts had no knowledge of astronomy outside of our solar system. Since they didn't know about it, they couldn't make up shit about it. Or maybe God doesn't know about these things. Kind of funny. He created them. Then again, he doesn't exist. TOOL!
And why don't the animals worship god? Why don't the trees? The mountains? I haven't ever seen the animals reading the bible. What about the turd I dropped in the toilet 5 minuets ago? Why doesn't it pray to God? In your fantasy world, God created it (I can't even copyright my own crap thanks to Him). I'll tell you why they don't pray to God... BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOD. What dolts! Even my poop figured out there is no such thing as as a god. My feces is smarter than you.
So to get the point of God linking to Katrina... umm... re read what I just wrote. There is no God. Hurricanes are caused by due processes of weather, which are naturally explained by various scientific and mathmatical laws. In the recipe for a good ole' fashioned Hurricane, NO GOD NEEDED!
So what about Katrina? Queers weren't being punished.(If you hate gay people, you're an idiot. If your going to hate someone, at least get a legitimate reason. Like... they're you. If they are you then you should hate them.
So much hate on this site, it is rather sad. If you get anything out of the bible (or most other religious texts), God is love. Rather than sitting around calling people "fags", (God makes no mistakes,God created homosexuals and bi-sexuals. Who would CHOOSE to be gay or bi-sexual in a world full of hateful individuals who are judgemental towards them). Rather than saying "sinful" people deserved what happened to them. (most of the people who lived in the areas destroyed by Katrina are kind and caring people, who didn't deserve the destruction of their home,etc.). Do not judge, help other people, Jesus was friends with individuals (prositutes, thieves) that other people looked down on. LOVE your neighbor as yourself. Jesus didn't say JUDGE your neighbor. God is the god of mercy. God is the God of everyone no matter who they are. He may be called by different names (allah, Jehoviah, Father sky/ mother earth, a mass of energy, etc), but he is LOVE. Hate is not what Jesus, Ghandi, or any of the world religions taught (except maybe the satanic church). Hate is a deception brought upon this earth by Satan; He is the one making you judge. Making you think you are "holier than thou" just because you believe in a certain deity. No, that isn't what God wants from you; he wants compassion,acceptance, and understanding of your fellow human (and all other animals) and above all else, he wants you to love everyone.
With you stupidity becomes infinite.
If you think the disaster in New Orleans was due to the acts of people you should be committed in an asylum for the insane. How do you explain natural disasters on other planets, which, so far as we know has no life? Are you really stupid enough to believe that there were no such disasters on this planet many ages before man ever sat foot upon it? Everyone in the entire world cannot be bad enough to cause a storm, nor can they be good enough, pray loud enough and long enough to prevent a storm.
One can actually make a very rational argument, from the facts alone, that New Orleans was destroyed for disobeying the will of God... one just has to be willing to define "God" broadly.
Bear with me for a moment:
Why was New Orleans destroyed, according to the actual facts of the situation? Well, it was destroyed because the levees flooded it.
Why did the levees flood it? First, because both the city and the levees are constantly below sea level, and secondly because of the amount of rain absorbed by the lake and the River Mississippi.
Why was the city sinking below sea level? Because the land the city was built on had historically been renewed by the annual flooding cycle of the Mississippi. When the river was dammed (damned?) and harnassed to the will of mankind, this flooding stopped. So the city started to sink.
Why was there so much rain? Because the barrier islands and wetlands that ordinarily absorb rain in such an event had been destroyed when the river was dammed and by subsequent development.
So, in summary, why did the levees break and flood New Orleans? because men altered the cycles of nature. If the engineers who had worked to protect New Orleans had contrived to do so without thwarting the natural progression of the Mississippi, this would not have happened.
Now, what are the cycles of nature according to theistic faith since the dawn of time? Well, they are the dictates of God(s). In fact, the Mississippi has been called the Nile of America... one recalls that in ancient Egyptian lore the Nile was considered a primary aspect of the sacred, and that damming it was considered to be one of the unpardonable sins.
Why was New Orleans destroyed? Because of the hubris --and, one ought add, the carelessness-- of a corps of army engineers who thought they could overcome the laws of a God. There may not be evidence that some angry God decided to smite the city for abortion and homosexuality... (in fact, that seems like an absurd suggestion for the "cause" of this "effect) but the evidence is irrefutable that the city's fate was a direct result of breaking the natural laws which our ancient ancestors recognized as divine.
When we hear that "God works in mysterious ways," we ought not assume that this means "ways which make no sense," but rather "ways which we do not have the science to fully control and predict..." --ways that may include the flow of a mighty river.
Melody
PS -- This is not to say that the people of New Orleans deserved what they got. I had planned to move there to teach in the next year or two, and I deeply regret the loss of the city.... But if myth and history teaches us anything, it is that those who pay the penalty of "sins" are very seldom those who knowingly committed it.
Let us be absolutely honest with ourselves:
The Bible says:
QUOTE
Matthew: 10.29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 10.30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 10.31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
UNQUOTE
So God HAS allowed this to happen.
So the important question is, Why?
Visitor | 2005-09-27 04:33 AM wrote:
(God makes no mistakes,God created homosexuals and bi-sexuals. Who would CHOOSE to be gay or bi-sexual in a world full of hateful individuals who are judgemental towards them)
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BUT, Jesus Christ says:
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE (!), nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Cor.6:9-10)"
The above-mentioned Visitor implies that a gay (or indeed a transgressor
of any Divine Law) is made by God to transgress. If that were the case,
then a drunkard killing people with his car could plead innocent, God made him like that?
The bottom line is:
Do you believe in GOD, or You (as God)?
Are any of you people aware of how our government system works???!!! Have you been BLINDED by liberals into thinking that the federal government is there to take care of your every whim and need??? You are all nuts. Let me state it plainly: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A PRESIDENT (white, black, rich, poor, Republican, Democrat, etc.) TO SEND FEDERAL TROOPS INTO A STATE WITHOUT THE DIRECT REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR. It was totally the mayor and the governor's job to either get the state national guard and other law enforcement into New Orleans or to promptly send in a request for federal help. Ever heard of separation of powers?? Get that through your heads. What was the governor doing during all of this? Crying in her office?
PS Who has been in control of Louisiana for the past over-fifty-years?? The DEMOCRATS?? Why is there still poverty in Louisiana then? It can't be the Republicans fault, they couldn't do anything one way or another!!!!
In love,
a libertarian friend
PPS God is... love, of course, but He, being only good, cannot abide in the presence of sin. Therefore not all people will go to be with Him after death, only those who have received His ultimate gift: Jesus, God in the flesh, fully God yet fully man, who fufilled the Law completely so that mortal, falable man could be in the presence of a Holy God for ever and
ever, amen. "Even so, come Lord Jesus."
Alright, Wise Dove... let's assume for thirty seconds that you aren't mentally handicapped (no offense meant to people who realy are At least they have an actual excuse.) . You're absolutely right in the fact that Bush could not have sent in troops into LA. without the governor's request. However, you conveniently overlooked the fact THE GOVERNOR DID INDEED ASK FOR HELP FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE VERY DAY THE STORM HIT. Huzzah, aren't you so smart?
And to continue proving how IDIOTS like you continuosly rant without doing your homework, The LA. State Militia was indeed working as soon as they were able. However, thanks to "The War on Terror" and the "Iraqi War," State Militia's nation wide have suffering numbers. There weren't enough S.M troops to handle the situation. You're such a genius. And, you're correct in saying Democrats have been in charge of LA. for some time... Just like Republican's have held a majority in congress (along with the Oval Office) for some times. And the economy has sucked. The only relief from that was Clinton's 8 year term (where the Economy rocked my socks). So Republican's control the Government right now... the fact that the entire nation is in a fincancial crisis can't be the Democract's fault! They couldn't do anything one way or another!
[You're such a TOOL and you've just been owned.]
Amazing how the dogma works in everyones favour. Personally if God destroyed N.O. for its sinful ways, why punish Christians and sinners in like fashion? Its so easy to say "Becuase perhaps they didnt live according to Gods law or will" How do you know how they lived? and are you so sure YOU live according to his rule? Many hard-working, devout christians died in N.O. also. Was it just because of their proximity to N.O. that they suffered? If N.O. was this centuries Sodom & Gomora why then did God abandon these loyal people. Why did he give them no warning as he did with Lot? Next should come the old stand by "Well it was Gods will and we dont question it" bullshit answer.
a couple of children in the schoolyard are naughty, should we kill all the children playing in the school yard to make sure we weed out the evil? Is this what your so-called "Loving God" does? Or is it the other stand-by answer "Well God called the others home to his kingdom" With no regard for greiving family or friends? Because "HE" wanted them? This supposes that all death is planned by God. Does this mean when some pedophile abducts and kills a child he's doing Gods Will? Its a vicious circle much like Drug Addiction. The inante human need to believe in something more than themselves...guiding them...nurturing them...or punishing them. And then the flip side! A power to blame...give up control to...a design in progress to which we, are left out of the loop but seem to be an integral part of. The word "Pawn" springs to mind. They feed us this "God" like a drug...then when bad happens...offer us another "Hit" to comfort, console or keep us hooked.
God (as has been the case with all God's throughout history) is a construct of MAN. Ripe with mans faults, contradictions and myths of power. If Jesus wasnt human, if he were truly a devine spirit embued with the will of god...why did he suffer the Human indiginitys of Anger, Doubt and Fear? Did this bring him closer to understanding us? or by experiencing our weeknesses found just how foolish we truly are?
Then, of course, there is the other scapegoat of blame. Satan! Oh yes, lets blame it on Satan!
Remember, Satan was an angel. Created by God to be without sin...without humanities pension for sin. and yet, he was ripe with it! He was jealous, covetous, vindictive and a liar. So did God create his own enemy? or was it just piss poor planning? Or...as I believe is the case...were both just constructs of limited human imaginations trying to put some unit of control in place to dominate the will and lives of men? I think the latter explains it best!
When will mankind grow the hell up? When will we ever learn that it is we, not some imaginary force, that controls our destiny? When will we comprehend at last that after hundreds of thousands of years and a million "Gods" later that we are no better off with one than without one?
I will always believe that Science was the First True religion of man...because in the begining, man was more concerned with how to bring that animal down for dinner before he ever pondered wether or not a God would approve of him for doing so!
Lot of stuff going on here..Far Left Far Right, anybody in the middle? Natural disasters happen, its the nature of our world and the and the universe. By design or other its destined to continue will never change. Now stop the BS and think about what you are saying. Make it a better world for all.
New Orleans, "WAS" Destoryed by God Almighty, because "GOD Hates SIN"
BOTTOM LINE.
revelations 8:7 the first angel sounded and there followed haile, and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth, and the third part of trees was burt up, and all greengrasse was burnt up. now after the hurricane we have fires state wide in texas and also in Alstraila. so now the questian is has the pleages and Gods wrath it talkes about in revelations began? I know so. so if you want to know ask God. He don't need the Bible to talk to you b/c he lives in side of you he is your God. He will still be your God (fauther) even if he has to send you to hell to be punnished.
All you sad priesty ppl, go get a life you racist homophobes
You know, reading thru these posts reminds me why I try not to deal with "Christians" unless absolutely necessary. How is it that god is love one minute, then killing all the "sinners" the next. You do realize that Christians were killed as well, don't you? This was a HURRICANE, not and act of god. It kind of killed people indiscriminately, regardless of race, religion, social status, etc. In case you haven't noticed, lots of hurricanes hit the U.S. every year. And what ever happened to "judge not lest ye be judged"? Or how about Jesus - "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? Come on people. Maybe you should try READING the bible instead of going to church and letting someone else interpret it for you. Jesus was all about helping the meek, the sick, the poor, THE SINNERS! He didn't condemn them, he was trying to show them "the everlasting love of god". But all you people do is spew hate towards any group that doesn't share your beliefs. Oh and by the way what you have are just beliefs. That doesn't make them true. But i really do try to respect your beliefs (usually more respect than is ever shown to me), besides the fact that you guys don't exactly make it easy. How is telling someone that they're going to go to hell if they don't believe exactly what you believe in being compassionate or caring or showing them gods love? Honestly, I do believe that Christianity can be one of the paths to the divine, but so many of you are just hypocrites. Most Christians are "pro-life", yet at the same time are for the war. How the hell is that pro-life. If you're "pro-life", you need to love ALL life. Not just like minded people and an embryo that, what? Might someday grow up to be a republican? Maybe it's just double-think. Maybe you just need to learn to practice what you preach. Or at least just try to remember the next time you want to condemn people and say that god killed them for their wicked ways, you are not perfect either. You're far from it. Actually, according to you, the only one without sin was Jesus. But then again, remember from Sunday school, that whole original sin thing, being born of the flesh? Even though he was "the son of god", immaculate conception and all, he was still born of the flesh. So how is he without sin? Oh and by the way, i got kicked out of church and was told i was going to hell just for asking a few simple questions about the many contradictions that are rampant in the bible, questions that I thought a preacher, who has "studied" the bible all his life, should have been able to at least try and answer. So much for love, compassion, and all those other qualities you have for other Christians, but not for your fellow human beings.
what a son of a bitch!!! THOSE WERE FAMILY MEMBERSS. WIFE, HUSBANDS .FATHERS, MOTHERS, CHILDREN. YOU ARE AGAINST ABORTION CAUSE IT KILLS PEOPLE YET YOPU ARE OVERJOYED WHEN THOUSANDS LOSE THERE LIVES IN A HURRICAIN.. YOU ARE AN EVIL SON OF A BITCH. PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE RELIGION A BAD NAME
"If you think the disaster in New Orleans was due to the acts of people you should be committed in an asylum for the insane. How do you explain natural disasters on other planets, which, so far as we know has no life? Are you really stupid enough to believe that there were no such disasters on this planet many ages before man ever sat foot upon it? Everyone in the entire world cannot be bad enough to cause a storm, nor can they be good enough, pray loud enough and long enough to prevent a storm."
somebody said this a ways down the page.
this pretty much sums it up.
you make a mockery of god and christianity when you use them to justify your own hateful, ignorant biases, and you bastardize your own faith when you use it to support your hatred of people who differ from you. it's sick, ignorant, and probably pisses jesus off.
may your eyes be opened to the disgusting, hypocritical, vile things leaking out of your self-righteous mouths, and may the flying spaghetti monster have mercy on your pasta-less soul.
And im talking about the old New Orleans
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