Sarah Palin's Questionable Judgment
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's an up-and-coming Republican leader who could've been an interesting presidential or vice presidential candidate in four or eight years. It is reckless insanity to believe she's ready to step in as commander-in-chief now, particularly to serve a 72-year-old president with health concerns after two bouts with skin cancer and five-and-a-half years' mistreatment as a prisoner of war.
Palin, only two years removed from being the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (pop. 6,700), had to be told two months ago what the vice president does:
Larry Kudlow of CNBC's Kudlow & Co asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.
Palin replied: "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"
Because McCain did so little to familiarize himself with Palin -- he only met her once prior to this week -- and she's a little-known and untested politician from a low-populated state, I have a gut feeling that we're headed for another Thomas Eagleton situation where a vice presidential nominee is dropped before Election Day.
Start looking into Palin's life, as thousands of reporters and activists are now doing, and there's a strong undercurrent of weird. Some of it is charming, Northern Exposure stuff -- her parents were out caribou hunting when news broke of her selection as running mate -- but a lot of it makes you wonder how well anybody in the GOP vetted her. Some of McCain's advisers like Karl Rove are the same geniuses who thought Harriet Miers belonged on the Supreme Court.
One bit of weirdness associated with Palin concerns the birth of her youngest child. As the Alaskan media reported, Palin was attending an energy conference in Texas on April 18 when her water broke four weeks before her due date. After this happened, Palin didn't head to a hospital or even leave the conference, even though the premature rupture of fetal membranes is normally a cause for an immediate examination by an obstetrician, who will observe the fetus on a monitor to guard against infection and other life-threatening complications. Two other reasons for heightened concern were Palin's age, 43, and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome.
Palin stayed at the conference and delivered a 30-minute speech, then boarded a 12-hour Alaska Airlines flight from Dallas to Anchorage, neglecting to tell the airline her water had broken -- most airlines won't fly a woman in labor. The motivation for all of this appears to be the Palins' desire that the child be born in Alaska. Her husband Todd told the Anchorage Daily News, "You can't have a fish picker from Texas."
When she arrived home, Palin was hospitalized immediately and the baby was born prematurely after labor was induced in the middle of the night.
Maybe Palin's actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she's a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
In the ADN article Palin downplays her decision to fly, implying traveling was reasonable as she wasn't in labor. If so, then why was she immediately hospitalized after returning to Alaska? Why was there an induced delivery of a 36-week infant by 6:30 am soon after her return? Again, ask any OB doctor. Induced delivery of a premature infant ALWAYS indicates a problem. The two most likely would be fetal infection, (a likely event given her failure to seek meaningful medical attention for her baby) or fetal distress by monitor.
Ask your OB doctor if the risks Palin took with the life of her unborn child are risks they would have advised for ANY reason.
I'm sure that some people will consider raising this subject a cheap shot, since the child was born healthy and it all worked out for the Palins. But you have to question the judgment of a person who took so many risks with her life and that of her baby.
Update: People who are spreading the cruel rumor about Palin's pregnancy and her daughter should read this April 27 blog entry from a woman who shared a commercial flight out of Fairbanks, Alaska, with the governor in March. Elizabeth Eubanks writes that Palin was "pregnant (she has since had her baby) with bags and daughter in tote." A search of Google's cache confirms this entry has been unchanged since April.
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hey, listen to Sarah Palin in her own words in this NewsWeek Video that was done back in March 2008! Its very telling!
www.newsweek.com
This is Mike from Wasilla. Ok, I said right here that all sources said that Bristol was pregnant. I hope that Trig is Sarah's child as this makes the true story that she placed her child in extreme danger even more of a lesson to those who believe that her judgment can ever be clear. There is so much more to Sarah's story. Let's review her true stance on abortion and how she has handled the 2 bills that came before her to be legislated in AK. The real story on the bridge to nowhere and how about some review of Sarah's extracurricular activities over the past three years. The truth does hurt and a Barak supporter this can be good or bad. The reality is that McCain made an extremely poor judgment call and outsiders point of view depicts Sarah as this wonder woman when in fact details will continue to pour out that will most likely lead to Sarah being dropped from the ticket. Please believe me, it does not stop here. The debate is healthy but do not be fooled. McCain was. The facts: McCain's team is now at the Best Western in Wasilla Vetting all that will talk because he did not. I am 100% confident that McCain did not know that Bristol was pregnant (something still tells me that this is Bristol's second kid). I'll provide facts. Please be prepared to hear the truth conservatives/republicans as well as those democrats that may be on the fence. IT IS ABOUT JUDGMENT AND NOTHING ELSE
Note: she obviously has the international experience because Alaska is after all 36 miles from at its closest point to Russia. That's why the pick of Minnesota's governor, Pawlenty would have made the cut because of the close proximity to Canada. HA! HA!
Mickey,
Mike from Wasilla. Yes, there is ample details to the reports of Bristol being taken out of school. The fact is that she has been living with her sister in Anchorage for some time.
Mike, tell ya what. Keep your hands off my uterus whether I have an abortion or a baby, OK?
BTW, folks, here's what OBAMA just put out. He's saying what I've been saying: Stop it, already:
Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama Monday afternoon issued a strong statement to "back off" reports of Bristol Palin's pregnancy, telling reporters families -- and especially children -- are off limits in this presidential campaign.
Mr. Obama, campaigning here, also noted that his own mother was 18 when she gave birth to him.
"People's families are off limits," he said. "People's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. "
"I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he added. "That shouldn't be a topic in our politics."
He vehemently pushed back against an unnamed McCain aide suggesting his campaign had any ties to the blogs that were spreading rumors before the news broke, saying he was "offended" by that and if any of his staff was involved in spreading the issue, "they'd be fired."
So she told the press that she leaked amniotic fluid and began labor in Texas
And the labor was so imminent that it had to be induced 24 hours after she said the fluid leaked.
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Timeline from the article:
Early Thursday -- she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time - she consulted with her doctor, amily physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson,...
Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson
So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.
They landed in Anchorage around 10:30 p.m. an hour later were at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Baldwin-Johnson said she had to induce labor, and the baby didn't come until 6:30 a.m. Friday.
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Let's review the facts.
1. Palin has had 4 children. (Can we assume she might know something about how imminent labor is in her body?)
2. Palin consults with Doctor at 4am Thursday, and stays in contact during the entire time.
3. Palin gives speech. (Can we assume not in pain with contractions?)
4. Palin gets on a flight from Dallas to Seattle. (According to expedia.com, Dallas to Seattle is a 4 hour flight)
5. In Seattle she checks with her Doctor and Palin continues the flight(According to expedia.com, Seattle to Anchorage is a 3 1/2 to 4 hour flight)
6. About 6 to 8 hours after Palin lands, labor is induced with the baby not coming out until 8 hours after she landed in Alaska.
7. Total time from labor started until induced birth is 26 to 29 hours (with time differences)
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Family values or political ambition.
Choosing to run for vice president over caring for your 4 month old baby with down syndrome seems to be a case of someone who's political ambition far exceeds their family values.
I don't see how this gets so easily overlooked by right wing family value conservatives.
Not to mention praising your 17 year old daughter for getting pregnant and having the baby.
What are parents suppose to say to their daughter in regard to abstinence or at least birth control......when the kid responds..."I want to be just like the vice presidents daughter."
Joe:
I presume you're a progressive guy, or at least you pretend to be one when you want to get into a progressive woman's pants.
As a progressive woman, I'd like to ask you:
Are you telling me that I am not allowed to have a challenging job with a younger child?
Should I stay home barefoot? How many months out of the work force (where I would otherwise compete with the likes of you) would be OK for you?
So, a woman needs to put any professional ambitions on hold until everything in her family stops happening?
I'm curious Joe: Does that mean men with small children should not have jobs or work or challenges when they have a small child, or one with special needs?
Oh, I get it... let the one with the breasts and vagina stay home.
How do you call yourself a progressive?
This whole episode has been very revealing about progressive men, that's for sure. I guess I'll have a few more questions for some guy who wants to date me _after_ he assures me he believes in choice and womens' rights and equality.
Yea, think about that bastard Joe Biden who was 29 years old with severally injured children who had just lost their mother. How dare he continue in the senate after that when he had kids to take care of?
I agree with Joe Kat, Biden was a P.O.S. for not quitting his politcal career to spend time with his kids.
Its really not an attitude.
Its more about the importance of child development during the first years of life:
I am not talking about staying home until the kids are grown up:
"Although it is never too late to improve the quality of a child's life, the first three years are the most crucial for their survival and thriving. If the extraordinarily receptive brain of the child lacks the stimulation for which it is primed during the first three years, the possibility for various types of learning may be substantially reduced-- during key developmental periods, some parts of a child's brain can nearly double in size in a year"
"In the critical first years of life, children establish a sense of trust and belonging, acquire language skills,develop curiosity and experience a great period of brain development and learning. In order for this development to be successful, babies need to be love and nurturing; the essential ingredients to build secure bonds and attachments."
I am sure a man can provide the same kind of love as a woman.
But if there were a choice I think that a 4 month old with down syndrome could use both parents for the first year of life.
So my point was political ambition chosen over family values.
Thats all.
No big deal
:-/
Joe Kat:
Presumably your quoted google research points are supposed to supply the premises for the argument that you've made.
Problem is that the premises do not support the conclusion.
The problem with the premises is the sexist assumption that a child cannot get love, nurturing, and stimulation from dad, grandma, siblings, and other care givers while mom is working.
I especially liked the part where special needs parents need to _both_ stay home with the kid. With what, I wonder, are they supposed to pay the bills? And, so, you are saying too, that every man or woman who has a spouse staying home with a special needs child is making poor choices by trying to make a living to support that family? What magical world do you live in? Do you know that special needs kids are more expensive to raise and harder to insure?
Nice back pedal, though. A for effort, to be sure. Just don't message me on match.com, OK. I'm pretty sure we won't be compatible. I have a feeling my career and educational ambitions, and belief that "little missey needs to be with her little kids at home" is sexist trip might cause us friction. I don't think I'd be compatible with your secret non-progressive "family values." Be sure that you let whoever you do end up dating know about the limits to your progressive thought.
"A Down's child would forever be a burden to her"????
I speak from experience; a Down' child is NOT a burden. If every family had a child with Down's, this world would be a MUCH kinder, more loving place.
I am not sure why I am still responding to this argument with Mickey.
I think you must be an example of someone who thinks they know someone based on a few statements they make........
But my final words to this argument will just be about clarifying one thing.
I don't care if mom and dad work two jobs......thats great if they need to or want to.
The job that Sarah Palin has chosen pretty much require she not be availabe for the next 3 months.....on the road campaigning...7 days a week.
I think there is a difference between being home less because of work and not being home at all.
I am sure that you will find something wrong with this statement.
So have fun with it.
I'll try to post this Monday or Tuesday on why I don't think McCain's campaign properly vetted Palin.
Rogers Cadenhead | 2008-08-31 09:10 AM
Rogers, looks like I beat you to it. Or were you not really sincere when you said you'd post about McCain's vetting of Palin on Monday or Tuesday?
You get egg on your face yet again. Be careful of the salmonella.
news.yahoo.com
To Joe Kat
Do you know how many MEN have run for public office and the costs to their sometimes very young children?
Why has this smear not been brought up against them? Find me an article where a guy with very small children or those with special needs has had to defend the decision to campaign for office. Or working long hours. Of course people want to spend as much time with their kids as possible, but why is it that women get a "tsk tsk" when they have the audacity to run for office with small kids?
You have some internal assumptions that you are not seeing past. These assumptions are sexist. Its not your fault. You've got the republicans telling you this is the way god meant it, and you've got the popular media reinforcing traditional gender roles.
I'm challenging you because you need to be challenged. Progressive thought is about making progress toward equality, not blindly serving the sexist status quo. The most interesting thing about the nomination of a woman whose policies I oppose for VP is that she has revealed to me just how much work progressives have to do, even amongst ourselves. Sorry for being so hard on you. But until you walk a day in a woman's shoes, until you see people who are supposed to be your fellow travelers say things that suggest that a different standard applies because you've got ovaries instead of testes, you probably won't understand. It hurts and it is frightening.
...particularly to serve a 72-year-old president with health concerns after two bouts with skin cancer and five-and-a-half years' mistreatment as a prisoner of war.
Rogers Cadenhead
Don't bring up the health issue, smart guy...Biden's already had two brain aneurisms.
'women relate to women, it's a simple as that'!!?? You are an idiot patrick. You obviously know nothing about women, obviously don't know any with i.q.'s above 80. Who cares that she's a woman! I'm fully aware that some women are quite as stupid as some men, even men like you. She's inexperienced and has a very odd fishy story that is her leading story; which, if she's telling the truth, seriously throws her judgment and morality into question, and if she's lying, it speaks very poorly of her honesty, morality, and political motives. either way - if the child is her daughter's, she's denying that child and her own daughter their right to the truth, causing her whole family to live a lie to protect her political standing, and lying to the public she is claiming to serve (another republican liar, not even a surprise anymore). If the child is hers, she endangered herself, her child, the airline and violated the rights of everyone on the airplane with her irresponsible and dishonest flight during labor. The airline was not even informed of the situation. There is no way they would have let her on the plane in that condition, especially without written testament from her doctor that it was ok for her to travel. If she's willing to violate so much with that flight, what else would she violate as COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!?? Every comment I've seen by doctors says neither they nor any M.D. they know would have recommended Palin act in the way she did, were she truly in labor with a special needs child. At the very least, she would have required an examination by a doctor before flying - a doctor would never say, "sure, everything is fine, just fly home and we'll pop the little bugger out two months early when you get here in 12 hours". Any responsible doctor would have sent her to an e.r. immediately to try and stop a premature birth. So, it all adds up to a pack of lies or one very weird woman so concerned about her career she endangers her child, herself, and many others (can you say huge potential lawsuit for airlines had there been complications in flight). And liberals are not uncaring about children in the womb. We take very good care of ourselves during pregnancy and do everything possible to ensure the health of our unborn children. Very few people abort after the first trimester when it's not a child yet anyway. When they do, it's almost always for very serious reasons. But, whatever, you all send your children you never wanted off to war, better be rid of them post age 18 than pre age of viable life form. Hey, they get a few years that way.
Dems and repubs,
Great site on Sarah and the many issues that plauge her.
www.palininvestigated.blogspot
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Hate to keep it going but take a look at this picture from March'08, 4 weeks prior to the birth of Trig.
www.adn.com
And on cue, Smile chimes in with yet another hypocritical liberal attack on a woman's right to do with her body what she wishes. I guess the fact that labor had to be induced 24 hours after Palin got to Alaska means nothing to a medical expert like you. Man are our schools failing us if this is the kind of intellect we're turning out now. All incoherent rage, no attempt at reason. Pathetic.
Every rightwing commentator has you whining Leftists described to a "T": you are frightened into idiocy and attack all women, in attempting to dehumanize one of them for votes!
Mickey, I wouldn't label myself "Progressive", if I were you. That substitute for "Liberal" is becoming even more disreputable; sounding like some communist euphemism for one party dictatorship. A party of assassination - first at the verbal level, then possibly with batons on some "Progressive" Krystalnacht, as the collective goosesteps the hate forward with the zealousness they display in this instance ...
You swim in scum, you get scummy.
tadowe:
As one of my "progressive" sisters put it on another blog recently, I am wide awake about my so called fellow travelers.
Or as she put it: A lot of conservatives do not think women should have sexual freedom. But a lot of liberal men seem to think women are ONLY USEFUL for their sexual freedom.
I will not be bashful. I've been upset these last several days. Its like coming home to find your boyfriend not just having sex with someone other than you, but having it be the family dog he's pumping. I thought I knew my "liberal" or "progressive" or "leftist" (yes, I am and I do not apologize) friends and neighbors.
I don't know them. And they don't know me, or women in general, really.
What I can't understand is this question: When has a male political candidate EVER been grilled about whether he can both be in a high office and have children? If you had grabbed me a week ago with just that statement, I would have said: "Oh, Rush Limbaugh," right?
More astoundingly, lets talk about choice: Does anyone here REALLY believe that the daughter of some other well known holder of office has not become pregnant and exercised her choice in another direction? Does that mean that we have to suffer the other side now asking candidates on "meet the press," whether any of their daughters had abortions, or use contraception, or what?
What are we coming to?
After giving lip service to the fact this stuff is off limits, we have Biden actually reduce the woman to her looks (gaffe prone, yeah, I know); and Obama has not done more to stop the press, which clearly did not heed his statements, or maybe they took them with a wink and a nudge.
If I were Obama, I would rescue the party by saying: Any media organization that does not take heed of my statement about what is off limits will be kicked off my campaign plane, denied interviews, denied access, and left in the cold. (I do take solace in my view that Obama has such stature he already commands a bully pulpit).
I am floored and dismayed.
And I'm not the only one:
theikonoclast.blogspot.com
wizardfkap.blogspot.com
I think I'll still vote. But there's a part of me that will feel filthy in doing so, as if my vote is somehow a blessing for more of this in the future. I just really wish Obama would do more to stop it. I think he will. I believe he is genuine in HIS regard for women and our issues, even if some of his supporters are not. I will be heartbroken if it turns out to be cynically otherwise.
Joe Kat said "What are parents suppose to say to their daughter in regard to abstinence or at least birth control......when the kid responds..."I want to be just like the vice presidents daughter."
I would rather my daughter be "Just like the Vice President's Daughter" than Just Like Clinton's Intern.
Question: Gov Palin doesn't appear too pregnant in this photo, in fact with the layers of clothes she appears no more pregnant than you. Did you by any chance touch her belly? Most people, especially women can't help themselves!
You are a phony. You quote JakeW as a commentator to the Washington Post as a deliberate attempt to mislead readers that JakeW is some knowledgeable public person or journalist.
Why JakeW carries no more waith than I do- and appartantley you do. Your left wing diatribe helps McCain-Palin.
With all due respect to the lady who blogged that Gov. Palin was indeed pregnant did she feel the baby move or was she basing her opinion that she was pregnant on appearance? A pregnancy belly can be purchased to achieve the look. Do we really know that Bristol Palin is 5 months pregnant or are we expected to believe this again based on nothing more than her appearance? How convenient that she is 5 months pregnant. Just pregnant enough that she couldn't have been pregnant when Trig was born. Would anyone be surprised if Bristol has a miscarriage? Would any sane woman knowing that she is carrying a baby with Down's syndrome, with membranes that have prematurely ruptured, board a plane for an 8 hour flight and not inform attendants of her condition? Could it be that she was afraid a Dr. might be on board, offer to monitor her and realize that she isn't really pregnant? I think this whole situation is an elaborate cover-up to cover-up a cover-up and either there will soon be a miscarriage or a baby will be adopted and passed of as Bristol's. If this scenario turns out to be true just how far would this woman go if she is in a position of national power?
She could have been pregnant with pillows.
The big issues from this forum:
For every fascist warmonger comment, there is a mudball with "unpatriotic" written on it hurled back. It works both ways. Don't act high and mighty. We crossed and burned that Bridge to Nowhere a long time ago.
At best, Palin is completely honest and, in this instance, exercised poor judgment. Yes, we all have to concede that point. It was not a great idea to jump on a plane given the circumstances. Fortunately, things worked out alright for the newest and least retarded Palin family member.
At worst, Palin lied in a somewhat elaborate conspiracy that seemed innocent enough at the time, and plausible, as she had no idea that she was about to come under such national scrutiny. Definitely funnier than Juno.
The issue is: was she honest and making poor choices, or did she raise a moderately irresponsible daughter and engage in a ridiculous farce to cover it up?
I do feel that accepting the VP slot would detract from a mother's responsibilities to her newborn. If she was a dude, I would say the same thing. Either way, whatever it is a VP does would certainly be a position I would not fault anyone for trying to get. Its not an opportunity many people get twice.
The most appalling part of these posts is the constant homophobia, mostly expressed by Tadowe. If you feel a mother doesn't need to be there for her kids, then why are you so opposed to having two dads?
I can't really connect the notion of abortion and irresponsible parenting. I don't know when life begins, but I think parenting begins when you decide to have the baby. I can't make sense of most of the posts on that topic beyond that, so I'll leave it alone.
As far as the issues, sorry kids, this ain't that blog. I think this is about Palin's character, which is, and must, be fair game. As would be Obama's experience.
But let's lay the one completely ludicrous rumor to rest. The party who spends the trillion dollars on wars due to (even if you're not a total cynic) bad intelligence, is not the financially conservative party. Another point we all must concede.
Whether or not Bush lied about Al Qaeda links, WMD's, or national security, or whether or not this country is safer than ever, all that is irrelevant. Did our stretched military allow Russia to attack Georgia? We can't ever know for sure but one thing you can be certain of is that those people who were prowar are not the financially conservative ones.
Sorry for the tangent. The real issue is Palin, at least on this thread, and can we trust her and her judgment? Experience, political views, character?
Has public intelligence eroded so far as to defend a candidate who would advocate Creationism in our classrooms? The woman who prays with a witch hunter?
The conservatives making comments seem to be afraid that our country will go socialist. I can see that. But socialism will not go far. It may correct the areas of our country that have severely lagged behind the rest of the world. We are embarrassingly backsliding in education and in health care, both of which are largely nationalized the world over. Our own education system was socialized a long time ago and has led to our demise. But we do it locally. Most countries ahead of us do it nationally.
We should be looking into other systems to find out what they're doing differently and more effectively, then adopting. But that would require traveling outside the US. And my most silently resounding political statement: "Point to a Republican, and I will show you someone who has never set foot outside of North America." I make a few military exceptions... but not as many as you'd think.
Maybe the fear is that a socialist government would be run by a pro-choice chemical reaction. Or a gay dinosaur.
Jesuslovesyou says, "Don't act high and mighty."
Good advice. Something Jesus might say?
So, how did it feel when Obama said, "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. [over, becuase of economic difficulties]"
Isn't that acting 'high and mighty'?
Hillary Clinton responded, "The people of faith I know don't cling to' religion because they're bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich."
Of course, Democrats do this all the time - act high-and-mighty, lording it over others to elevate their own ego; e.g., just what you are doing here in your partisan effort to be HIGHER and MIGHTIER than Sarah Palin, all superior in your misdriections and efforts literally lie her into being a "liar". All for elevating your party (your proxy ego) above someone else. To virtually attack the reputation of another from your "superior", Jesusloving way!
That's why I come to places like this, to observe the unconscious and foolish criticisms presented by Leftists, and who obviously believe that these sort of partisanly directed, ends-justify-the-means lies are somehow "OKAY"!?!
Even to the point of signing yourselve's in as being Christians, when you are no such thing but rather sponsors of abortion, homosexuality, homosexual marriage and, or that homosexuals should influence the sexualality of adopted or foster care children, sex education in kindergarden, the right of homosexuals to display their private parts in public, ... ad nauseam ...
Actually, most anti-conservatives are secularists pretending to be, dressed-up as Christians so that you all can pretend to get up on your High Horse for votes over morales, votes over public taste, votes for party over nation in wanting defeat in warfare.
In the Bible, you hide behind, Jesus says, according to Matt 5:18:
"For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."
Stick that in your pipe, and lay off the dope ...
You prove my point for me without me having to do a thing. Open your mouth again and push more middle voters towards the party concerned with the issues. Away from people like yourself who are scared, confused, and going extinct.
Jesus loves you, so bend over.
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